tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post6641969382952262249..comments2024-01-08T01:20:20.736-07:00Comments on Days of Speed and Slowtime Mondays: You Spin Me Right Round Baby Right RoundElaynehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02734583197185810124noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post-54847185161081797822013-04-14T08:24:44.747-06:002013-04-14T08:24:44.747-06:00And if you watch that video on Youtube you can pau...And if you watch that video on Youtube you can pause it as she goes through the move and see that she start her rotation long before the dog takes the jump so the dog knows where he's going before take-off. I've long wondered how to get a tight turn in a scenario like that without having to shape the turn and waste yardage. Looks like a great way to get a nice tight turn if you can get your timing right.Elaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734583197185810124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post-38089183506290284832013-04-14T08:16:47.861-06:002013-04-14T08:16:47.861-06:00Yes, it can be inconsistent depending on what you&...Yes, it can be inconsistent depending on what you've taught your dog. Strummer's foundation jump training did include having him taking a jump with me facing him so for me it's not inconsistent though could potentially water down the collection cue if I use it too much. It's not any different from a Ketshcker depending how you feel about those. The key for me anyway is to maintain motion towards the jump while turning into him because the verbal cue alone won't send him over the jump if I'm at a standstill. Turning into him is just a collection cue, same as a front cross but more extreme and should happen before he takes the jump but after commitment so he shouldn't have a problem while jumping but of course that depends on good timing. <br /><br />There's an example of Top Spin <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiDadBf0D60&feature=youtu.be" rel="nofollow">here</a> at about 3:20. Not the only way to handle that sequence but sure looks handy.Elaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734583197185810124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post-57770291884538447312013-04-12T10:46:03.458-06:002013-04-12T10:46:03.458-06:00I don't think I like that top spin thing. It s...I don't think I like that top spin thing. It seems to go against everything we've taught our dogs. And pushes into then as they take the jump could cause a disaster as they try to read what you are doing. That's just my opinion.Dianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16378710392378543981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post-22083702865320038522013-04-09T09:15:20.644-06:002013-04-09T09:15:20.644-06:00Thanks for the suggestions, we’ll give it another ...Thanks for the suggestions, we’ll give it another go and try them out. I thought my turns looked wide and loopy in the video but wasn’t sure what the move was supposed to look like.<br /><br />I googled ‘Top Spin’ to see if I could find any examples, seems like it would be a move the Europeans do but apparently the Europeans refer to what I would call a Ketschker as a Top Spin or sometimes Absolute Top Spin. There are probably subtle differences between all 3 but I haven’t the time or interest right now in figuring them out. The closest video I could find was <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNXHGCwYeOM" rel="nofollow">this</a> and though she’s approaching the jump with shoulders forward rather than already turned into her dog like in a Ketschker, she’s only rotating 180 degrees rather than the 360. And to be nit picky, in our example I’m only rotating about 270 degrees. But I do see how it looks and feels different from a Ketschker. <br /><br />Also in the video she’s changing arms on the landing side and in our example we’re picking the dog up on the same arm. Not sure if that is a defining characteristic of the move either. I guess it all hinges on what people call it in the real world, the original definition is arbitrary anyway.<br />Elaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02734583197185810124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11345288.post-27095792483731363072013-04-08T14:38:24.352-06:002013-04-08T14:38:24.352-06:00Elayne and Strummer,
So glad you video taped your ...Elayne and Strummer,<br />So glad you video taped your efforts - thanks for adding to the discussion! Love the Dead or Alive soundtrack too! (that is one of my 80's guilty pleasure songs)<br /><br />You can see Strum read the rotation, especially in the second attempt after the slow motions. He drops the bar but you can really see him turn in to you (and hit the entry). <br /><br />I think in the ones where it goes wrong you are slightly closer to the weaves and moving forward more and he is pushed off the entrance. It is a tough entrance for a long strided dog with that shallow angled approach. But mostly, my advice would be to do the 360 as more of a pivot than a running circle - it is easier to get done faster too. It will be nice to see if Strummer reads it better.<br /><br />Thanks again!stevehttp://agilitynerd.comnoreply@blogger.com